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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby [Rn]Kalimah » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:27 pm

Naggly Nagger wrote:nice review kalimah! =D>

in the video dw linked, the map seems somewhat small, but then again there was almost no close quarter fighting. alot of the shots taken were almost out of visual range, or people shooting into dark buildings.

good points about the vehicles, im a foot soldier player myself. i find all those stupid drone attacks / vehicles ridiculous!

i'm still kinda on the fence, mainly about the iron sights. i dont see how it takes skill to camp somewhere iron sighting people that come by. its not really a twitch game when your running / sprinting along, trying to get to an objective, and some a-hole is just iron sighting some long alley way or something. the amount of time it takes to get an enemy in the sights when your on the move vs someone camping seems too great.

maybe i dont understand some of the mechanics though, i did notice blue and orange icons (if i remember right) in the video. does that mean the enemy is marked with an icon above the head, and i think it even has distance too?


Camping;

As far as camping goes, I'm actually surprised by how little there is, at least in Conquest mode. The only time you really see consistent camping is when one team is sieged at their original base (i.e. the team is getting whooped and can't get out) or in certain maps like Metro, which I mentioned in my review. If killed on a "Normal" server, you are able to see your maker's position in the seconds after your death - thus revealing any camper's position. I'm not necessarily a fan of this mechanic but it helps cut down on camping because the victim(s) know exactly where the camper is. This feature, however, is not active on "Hardcore" servers.

One thing that Dice did do well with the maps is the number of access points to every base or location of interest. Generally speaking, almost all of the capturable points are somewhat out in the open so it takes a pretty competent squad to hold down every entrance point to a building or hilltop. Also, you can be a decent range away from the capture point to actually initiate the capture sequence. You don't even have to go near the actual flag to capture it, you can hide in a building that's close by and the capture timer will begin to tick. Anyone camping a certain building or street will have the base captured right out from under them.

Colored Dots;

Yes, those are indicators of friendlies and enemies. The blue indicators you see are your teammates, green are squad members, and orange are enemies. If you've played Battlefield 2, you are already familiar with the "Spot" mechanic that BF is famous for. If you have a player in sight, you press Q while aiming at them and it will reveal their location to all of your teammates (with a cool vocal line, I might add). That orange indicator appears above their heads but is not always visible. I haven't quite figured out what the parameters are for the visibility but the icon disappears if they are behind objects or inside buildings. Basically, if your teammates can see them, they'll see the dot as well. The "Spotted" enemy will also appear on the mini-maps of all team members.

This is one of the best mechanics in the BF franchise, IMO. It gives the Recon class a role when sniping is difficult and also gives you a "Spot Bonus" if a teammate kills your spotted foe. As a foot soldier, you'll appreciate being able to see the tank icon coming at you long before you see the actual tank.

If want to look up more BF3 videos to get a good impression on map sizes and such, I would look up videos on the following;

Large, open style Maps (my favorite):

Caspian Border
Operation Firestorm
Kharg Island

Mid-Size Urban Maps;

Grand Bazaar
Seine Crossing
Tehran Highway (only night-time map)
Noshahr Canals

Bottleneck-style maps (Least favorite)

Damavand Peak
Metro

December will bring a DLC (free if you buy the "Limited Edition, which is practically every copy you'll see) with 3 more maps from BF2, Strike at Karkand, Sharqi Peninsula, and Gulf of Oman. These are (were?) some of the most played maps in online gaming. Karkand alone has billions of hours played and should be a lot of fun on Frostbite 2.

As far as your twitch concerns go, just keep in mind that this isn't Source. I've had my fair share of 1v10 uber-leet-massacres but running into an enemy base alone will almost always get you killed due to the killcam and number of access points to each base. You simply can't see everything going on around you. Fast reflexes is as vital in BF3 as ever but it won't always save you.

If anyone has any concerns or questions, by all means ask. This is my only place to discuss BF3 :D
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby helgrrr » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:44 pm

[Rn]Kalimah wrote:



Knifing is one of the funnest things to do to an opponent,







Ah you brought back this happy memory from BC2

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laughed my socks off

Hai Razor :P
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby Phallus Gigundus » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:28 pm

I'm surprised I don't see anyone's BF3 names posted in here. Mine's Hyrlyfrm.

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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby RazorMasticator » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:38 pm

i WAS gonna be playing this with my new pc... but unfortunately i wont be playing this AT ALL

i dont agree with EA anymore and ill be damned if im gonna install ORIGIN, the shitty program that syphons info from your pc to EA (EA has admitted they can see anything on your comp should they wish it) there are lots of flame for this reason all over the internet, im sure the game is great, but i cant bend my moral standards for EA... its a sad day indeed... i was hoping to play this, but im not helping EA with this new spyware tool.
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby Phallus Gigundus » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:04 am

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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby RazorMasticator » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:04 pm

if your tripple AAA title does not hit steam, i will not be buying it, i went with steam in the dawn of time to avoid complications = cd's. now its back to the old formula instead of cd's its download game client from each dev... fuck you EA, your games and services are getting worse each year and you know it.
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby RazorMasticator » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:18 pm

taken from EA own forums

I posted a complaint in these forums a few days ago complaining about all kinds of origins problems and EA deleted my post. Please watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8oeCKaQq6w

EA will delete your origins account and your games if you don't play them for a while AND will make you buy them over again. EA SUCKS. Get a refund and boycott their guerrilla business tactics.

Link to IGN article:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1186689p1.html

EA's origin terms of service "game deletion policy":

http://www.thegx.co/news/1524/ea-will-d ... nths-of-...

EA's origin terms of service "Account deletion policy":

http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/04/origins ... -deletion/


Not only that but EA also gathers personal information from your computer that has nothing to do with your games and wont let you host your own dedicated server and you can only buy servers from "EA Partners". I run a server company that has a better product model than RackSpace,1and1, and Amazon Web Services. Battlelog is broken because Rackspace SUCKS.

hahaha: D glad i didnt jump the band wagon on bf3... My tinfoil hat works fine my brother
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby Phallus Gigundus » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:12 pm

Does EA's attempt to copy the best digital delivery system on the market somehow offend your self-loathing sensibilities? I guess I'll apologize for the rest of the world for not meeting your standards. I'll even apologize for your problems with Battlelog, even though you don't use it. And I'll apologize for Origin, though you don't use that either, having not purchased BF3.

I apologize for the "broken" system which gets me into game with just a few clicks from my browser. I apologize for having fun in one of, if not the best fps I've ever played.
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby RazorMasticator » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:45 pm

no... what you need to do is read what i wrote, at no point in time did i ask for your apology or criticize your taste. The fact that you choose to apologise is entirely your choice, dont put that shit on me. what DID happen is you said i needed to drop my tinfoil hat, IM SHOWING YOU WHY IM WEARING wiseguy.

thx for the unnecessary apologies but you dont need them yet... we havent even had sex yet
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby RazorMasticator » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:11 pm

im sorry phallus but your last post is sooooooooooo good that i just need to heckle you some more, i love those salty tears, quick! call witchking fast, we can all have a group hug!
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Re: BF3 Open Beta

Postby helgrrr » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:30 pm

I seem to remember a lot of people whined about Steam when it came out too, look at them now.
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